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Introduction

The purpose of this page is to list all suggestions for the UDS Lucid translation sessions to be used as a basis for the final schedule.

Session proposals

Final list

Blueprints

• Improving documentation translation (AdiRoiban)

  • Cross session with the documentation team to discuss topics such as:
    • Feedback regarding the current ubuntu-docs translation process
    • Status of Kubuntu and Xubuntu docs
    • See how we can translate help files and other docs and training materials
    • Naming of translation templates for translation on Launchpad
    • See how we can collaborate for translating Ubuntu Learning Materials and Ubuntu Packaging Guide

  • Presentation of the doctemplate project (KyleNitzsche)

    • A new/developing LP project (lp.net/doctemplate) that provides a documentation template that can be added to packages or used for stand alone docs. Source is docbook article or book. It's fully localizable (images and strings), with pdf, html, html-with-javascript and docbook outputs. Also, discuss integration with LP: translation work flow, and possible LP improvements: Documentation tab, Doc privileges and assignment (like translations), import/export to/from LP, LP for image localization, LP display of localized content

• Browser start page localisation (TimoJyrinki)

  • mailing list post - in summary, localisation of the "Participate" page and "Help" link URL (if deemed proper), how to escalate

  • Discuss if the link from the start page should point to localized resources and can we check their quality

  • In 8.10 the search results were localized but now in 9.04 and 9.10 the search results are only for English bug 363381

  • Take a quick look at the current opened bugs https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page/+bugs

• Testing for Translations (AraPulido, DavidPlanella)

  • Cross session Translations/QA about test cases for translations. We could come up with a good blueprint for Lucid to add those kind of cases to the ISO tracker.

  • Suggestion: it would be interesting to have some advice from the testing team on:
    • Testing/finding out untranslatable strings
    • Testing language packs on stable releases
  • Encourage non-english speaking developers or advance users to use the translated version of Ubuntu

• Improving translation status reporting (DavidPlanella)

  • We haven't got a Launchpad Translations API, but for gathering translations statistics, template names, etc, we've got daily updated data here -> http://people.canonical.com/~danilo/ubuntu/. Note: the data is not from the production database, which means that it is a couple of days behind

  • What information is missing
    • number of strings that needs review or changed from upstream
    • date of last change done for a template for each language
    • priority value
    • create report for curent stable and dev release
  • What can we do with that data?
    • Providing stats based on distro
      • How do we report on languages? Kyle suggests a tiered language approach.
    • Provide diferent views of templates, e.g. package sets (with links to LP for the actual translations)
    • Provide a list of old templates as possible candidates for being obsoleted

    • As a prototype for further Rosetta feature use an external page to test various enhancement that can we reached by used those data - ex. http://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/jaunty-l10n-status/lang.html?ro

    • Create a RSS/email-notifications for new changes in templates, new sugestions, etc.

  • We can show those info in a more usefull format - http://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/karmic-report/

• Community participation in coordinating translations (DavidPlanella)

  • On the last cycle we saw the UbuntuTranslationCoordinators team building up. It has worked very well so far, and it would be interesting to have some feedback.

  • We want to have a well documented and transparent process, in which the community can contribute
  • Try to build a team that can cover all languages. Ex right now we miss Arab coverage.

  • Some of the actions the UTC is responsible for are already documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators#Actions. These might need to be expanded and perhaps we can also come up with a schedule on when to do the regular actions. Also there are some actions only David and Arne can do right now, should they be expanded to the whole group?

    • Changing translation focus in Launchpad
    • Requesting language pack exports - copy langauge packs into ubuntu-updates
    • ...

• Kubuntu Translations feedback and improvements (DavidPlanella)

  • Status of Kubuntu translations
  • Feedback on the improvement effort discussed on the last UDS and fleshed out during the Karmic development cycle.
  • Using Launchpad Translations for projects using TS files
  • Look at KDE source packages that have all POT files in the same folder.
  • talk about kde-l10n-CC kde-i18n-CC and langauge-pack-kde

• Increasing community developer contributions in Launchpad Translations (DavidPlanella)

  • Launchpad is now Open Source
  • There are lots of feature requests on Launchpad Translations, which the community could participate in or implement themselves
  • We'd like to discuss ways in which we could encourage or ease community developer contributions to Launchpad Translations.

• Translations best practices and policies (DavidPlanella)

  • Currently there is no authoritative set of policies for better structuring the Ubuntu Translations process

  • We should discuss for which aspects of the translations process we'd like to have documented policies, draft those and let the Ubuntu translations community ratify them.

  • It would also be useful to have a collection of best practices for Ubuntu translation teams, including guidelines on how to run a team, how to accept new members, how to communicate within the team, how to interact with upstreams and how to work collaboratively and ensure translation quality.

  • Review of https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Guide

  • Review and complete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/#Guidelines, see if there is any content that can be merged

• Launchpad Translations roundtable (Danilo, UrsulaJunque)

  • Roundtable session where the LP Translations devs can expose what's coming in the next cycle and get feedback and answer questions from users
  • Topics from translators:

    • Translation sharing between Ubuntu and upstream projects hosted in LP (AdiRoiban)

      • Now that we have message sharing between ubuntu series, see if we can share those translations between Ubuntu and upstream projects hosted in LP
      • we need to sync the translation policy with the upstream projects. For example all upstream project should have the same translation policy as Ubuntu
      • example of project that will benefit from this feature
        • all Ubuntu specific packages as it will be easy to create an upstream branch - UNR , ubiquity
        • trasmission
        • Synaptic
        • ubuntu-start-page

• Status and feedback about the Ubuntu Translations project (AdiRoiban)

  • bugs handling
  • answer tracking
  • process documentation for translators and developers

• Firefox translation improvements for Lucid

  • how to better utilize devmode
    • export in upstream format
    • export changes only
    • export changes as upstream patch
    • inform users how to create xpi from the xpi.po file
  • feedback loop
  • localized searchplugins - technical implementation, etc.

• OpenOffice.org planning for Lucid

  • We'd like to discuss OO.o translations on this informational session as well.

• Language selector improvements

  • Language selector improvements

  • Continuation of the Karmic improvements for Lucid.

Roundtables

• Translations Community roundtable (DavidPlanella)

  • Roundtable session to discuss the status of the Ubuntu translations community, possible improvements, etc.
  • Topic proposals:
    • Language pack schedule

    • ArchiveReorg, upstream integration and translations: do we want to enable universe translations at some point?

    • Ubuntu translator tools project
    • Testing translations early in the development cycle - when do we want to open translations (on the web UI) for Lucid?

    • Uploads to -proposed can modify templates, but what to do with the template if the upload is rejected for -updates? We could add a note on translations to StableReleaseUploads

    • ISO codes translations
    • packages.ubuntu.com translations

• Translations Community wrapup (DavidPlanella)

  • Overview of all changes coming for Lucid.
  • Wrapup and discussion of any other pending items.

Deferred

These topics have not been included in the final list of sessions, but can nonetheless be discussed (e.g. in roundtables)

• Indentifying the source package/template from UI strings (AdiRoiban)

  • see if we can have in LP a search feature that will look in all templates for a language
  • see how we can identify strings that are not marked for translations

  • Note: we can talk about this on the Launchpad Translations roundtable -- dpm 2009-11-05 12:39:56

• Starting with Translations content (DavidPlanella)

  • The main entry point for new Ubuntu translators is Launchpad and the wiki pages
  • It would be very useful to have more dynamic content, such as tutorials/screencasts, which could also even be translated.

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