07December16

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Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Team Reports
    1. Education Team

    2. Server Team

Log

Sun Dec 16 2007] [20:59:11]      * johnc4510-laptop who is here for meeting?   +1 please
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [20:59:23] <enigmastrat>      +1
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [20:59:28] <tyche>    +1
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [20:59:33] <johnc4510-laptop> +1
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [20:59:36] <Wolf_45>  +1
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:21] <johnc4510-laptop> t00na: slofgren Polygon89 ianmcorvidae kennymc0 meeting time if your around
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:29] <t00na>    eh?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:38] <johnc4510-laptop> howdy
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:40] <tyche>    t00na: Are you here?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:48] <t00na>    Well I'm speaking.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:52] <t00na>    :)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:53] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:00:58] <tyche>    Hee hee
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:01:21] <johnc4510-laptop> kk let's get started then
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:01:34] <johnc4510-laptop> no new members      so announcement
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:01:58] <johnc4510-laptop> We have a new team channel if you hadn't noticed. It's #ubuntu-us-az. If you have auto-joined enabled on your chat client, it will bring you here automatically since there is a redirect on the old channel.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:02:15] <johnc4510-laptop> This change is due to compliance with the Community Council to make channelo names consistant. I have gone through and changed all the links I could find on our server, wiki pages, and forum threads
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:02:33] <johnc4510-laptop> If you come across one that I have missed, go ahead and change it, or let myself or tyche know so we can.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:03:11] <johnc4510-laptop> next
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:03:17] <johnc4510-laptop> With the Holiday Season getting into full swing now, we will still have meetings
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:03:34] <johnc4510-laptop> They may be a little bit more informal, but we feel it a good idea to show consistance by continuing at our regular schedule
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:03:49] <johnc4510-laptop> I hope you all enjoy the peace of the season, and the blessing of family during this time. Happy Holidays!!
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:04:12] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, that does it for the announcements
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:04:23] <johnc4510-laptop> next is the Education Team project
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:04:42] <johnc4510-laptop> We continue to add applications to the Education Team page, although at a slow pace. SloggerKhan sent in items to add to the Graphics list under the Optional category.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:05:00] <johnc4510-laptop> Here is the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education/Graphics  you might want to take a look at it at your leisure to see what optional apps you can add to the graphics menu to round out this section of your install.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:05:27] <johnc4510-laptop> We still need members to help us add items to the following pages: System Tools, Sound & Video, Programming, and Other.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:05:44] <johnc4510-laptop> If you can find time to give us a few minutes it would be appreciated. You can look at any of the other pages to see what we're doing and then just email myself at johnc4510-cox@ubuntu.com or tyche. Tyche could you give your email address please? Thanks
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:06:03] <tyche>    My email address is tyche@cox.net
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:06:13] <johnc4510-laptop> ty
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:06:39] <johnc4510-laptop> any questions on the ed team project?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:07:12] <johnc4510-laptop> ok then server project
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:07:26] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: where are you at with the main page?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:07:41] <johnc4510-laptop> http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:07:55] <enigmastrat>      well, design wise, to tell you the truth, I have tried some different stuff with taht side, but I like what I've got the best so far
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:08] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:09] <enigmastrat>      PHP wise, it'll be quick once we're ready for it
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:18] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:30] <johnc4510-laptop> have you spoken with slofgren  about that?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:35] <enigmastrat>      I have not
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:39] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:54] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll try to speak with him this wk then
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:08:56] <enigmastrat>      but with the map of the site, we may just need one or two pages in which case straight HTML would be fine
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:09:10] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: you might help me remember that
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:09:21] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:09:31] <tyche>    I'll try.  But I have the mind of an amnesiac elephant. . .I always forget.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:09:57] <johnc4510-laptop> if we start a second page, what do you all suggest we populate it with
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:09:58] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:10:27] <tyche>    How about team purpose?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:10:41] <johnc4510-laptop> like goals you mean?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:10:57] <johnc4510-laptop> or why we're doing what we're doing
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:11:01] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:11:16] <tyche>    Yea, and even more general - why we're doing what we're doing, and how we're doing it.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:11:24] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:11:27] <johnc4510-laptop> good idea
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:12:02] <johnc4510-laptop> another thought for a page would be to use it to imphasize the lugs of the state
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:12:16] <johnc4510-laptop> emphasize
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:12:19] <tyche>    Oh, definitely.  With links and logos, if any.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:12:25] <johnc4510-laptop> sure
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:12:42] <johnc4510-laptop> k, so that's ideas for a couple of pages then
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:13:12] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: how hard to make a second html page
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:13:40] <johnc4510-laptop> it could be a twin of the first as far as layout is concerned
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:13:44] <tyche>    johnc4510-laptop: How about keep the same basic features, just change the text.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:13:47] <enigmastrat>      not at all
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:13:48] <johnc4510-laptop> not content
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:02] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: agreed
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:15] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: and linking them is no problem?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:18] <enigmastrat>      nope
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:37] <johnc4510-laptop> like putting a page two link on the first page
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:38] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:39] <enigmastrat>      just make a copy of the first with a different name, change the text
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:49] <johnc4510-laptop> kk  :)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:14:55] <enigmastrat>      yup and put a link
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:15:05] <tyche>    We're going to blow vorian away with a themed site.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:15:09] <Wolf_45>  Hey, if I can do it, it can't be "that" hard! :-)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:15:18] <johnc4510-laptop> heee heeee
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:15:30] <tyche>    Agreed.  I did it with a company web site.  Not hard at all
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:15:48] <johnc4510-laptop> k, enigmastrat could you maybe put something up this wk or next ?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:00] <enigmastrat>      you mean the second page?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:01] <johnc4510-laptop> so i can start populating it?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:03] <enigmastrat>      yeah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:03] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:07] <enigmastrat>      how about now?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:17] <tyche>    One, or two pages?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:19] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, i would appreciate it when you have time
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:39] <johnc4510-laptop> well, he might as well put up 2
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:46] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:50] <tyche>    That would help.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:56] <johnc4510-laptop> page 2 and 3
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:57] <enigmastrat>      like for a total of 3?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:59] <enigmastrat>      ok
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:16:59] <enigmastrat>      yeah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:05] <tyche>    Thanks
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:17] <johnc4510-laptop> it would just be duplicating the same one twice right
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:24] <enigmastrat>      http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/page2.html  http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/page3.html
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:29] <enigmastrat>      done
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:30] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:34] <johnc4510-laptop> cool
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:36] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:41] <johnc4510-laptop> looking
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:43] <enigmastrat>      that just happened
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:17:48] <enigmastrat>      :)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:10] <enigmastrat>      oh, I'll drop a link on each
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:18] <tyche>    enigmastrat: Now you realize that you just made me work over the holiday.  Hee hee
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:27] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah sure, now i can just go in and edit out and edit in the content
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:33] <enigmastrat>      yup
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:36] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:38] <johnc4510-laptop> nah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:52] <johnc4510-laptop> we're going to take it easy till the first of the yr
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:55] <johnc4510-laptop> somewhat
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:18:57] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:04] <tyche>    I heard that!!!
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:09] <tyche>    Hee hee
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:10] <johnc4510-laptop> i want all the enjoy the holiday
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:13] <johnc4510-laptop> and family
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:20] <johnc4510-laptop> all that good stuff
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:23] <johnc4510-laptop> beside
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:24] <johnc4510-laptop> s
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:43]     * slofgren is here but late
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:46] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche will be overeating and sleeping in his chair
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:50] <Wolf_45>  EggNog!  Oh, sorry...
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:51] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: hi
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:54] <slofgren> HI
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:19:58] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:20:12] <tyche>    Couch.  Or bed.  LOL
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:20:25] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: enigmastrat was asking about PHP    you want to talk to him about that
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:20:27] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:21:39] <johnc4510-laptop> http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/page2.html    http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/page3.html
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:21:49] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: you here still?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:21:53] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:05] <slofgren> yep
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:18] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: talk to slofgren about PHP please
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:20] <slofgren> sorry distraction
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:23] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:24] <slofgren> what about PHP
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:39] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: had some questions
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:22:45] <enigmastrat>      can we do it, and do we need it?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:00] <johnc4510-laptop> we set up two more pages to mess around with btw
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:02] <slofgren> what are you wanting to do with it
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:11] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: ok
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:12] <enigmastrat>      make it easier to maintain a site
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:22] <enigmastrat>      with just two pages, it's not needed
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:28] <slofgren> yeah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:38] <enigmastrat>      if it gets much bigger, page management get annoying with straight HTML
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:43] <slofgren> we can install it if needed
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:46] <enigmastrat>      ok
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:51] <enigmastrat>      for now, I'm ok with not having it
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:23:54] <johnc4510-laptop> k, that was easy
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:05] <johnc4510-laptop> if we need it later we can do it
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:05] <slofgren> css without PHP can be fine on larger sites
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:18] <slofgren> PHP ussually adds a service
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:29] <johnc4510-laptop> how hard a transition if we do it later?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:35] <enigmastrat>      ok, I'll accept that
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:41] <enigmastrat>      not very
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:44] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:24:47] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:00] <enigmastrat>      no harder than it is to create it in PHP now
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:26] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: we are going to populate the 2 new pages with state lug stuff and team purpose things
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:31] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:32] <slofgren> imho - php is ugly and terible to write in
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:39] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:42] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:47] <enigmastrat>      unle4ss you code pretty like me
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:51] <slofgren> hehe
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:25:54] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:05] <enigmastrat>      that's the code is pretty, not me
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:07] <slofgren> hey I will admin what ever the web team decides
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:14] <tyche>    I'll drink >hic< to that.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:21] <slofgren> enigmastrat: I am not so sure you are either
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:23] <slofgren> ;)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:25] <johnc4510-laptop> slofglol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:30] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:53] <slofgren> do we have a web team
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:26:58] <enigmastrat>      <---
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:06] <slofgren> let me be foreward - I am not it
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:08] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: as far as the state lugs go and populating the page, do you have any suggestions?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:36] <slofgren> have we made succesful contact with each state lug?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:37] <johnc4510-laptop> we need to get Wolf_45 on the web team lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:42] <johnc4510-laptop> no
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:44] <johnc4510-laptop> not yet
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:52] <slofgren> I thin we need to do that
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:27:57] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:08] <slofgren> let them know we are here to support a link and Ubuntu support for them
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:13] <johnc4510-laptop> btw, any response to uninstalling that stuff yet
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:16] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:17] <slofgren> maybe offer install fests and stuffs
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:22] <johnc4510-laptop> right
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:24] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:37] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: liek apache and stuff?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:43] <johnc4510-laptop> i want to have an install fest in march
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:46] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: yeah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:28:53] <johnc4510-laptop> apache
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:00] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: I have not done it
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:05] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:05] <slofgren> I need to
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:10] <johnc4510-laptop> thought you had
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:18] <slofgren> let set a due date on that and I will attack
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:25] <johnc4510-laptop> i was refering to the stuff dx put on the server
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:29] <Wolf_45>  Huh?!  Hey, I just know a little bit of html...
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:36] <johnc4510-laptop> cool
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:41] <johnc4510-laptop> your hired
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:42] <slofgren> oh that stuff was gone befpre I loged off or contacted you
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:43] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:44] <tyche>    Wolf_45: You're hired.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:29:47] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:30:04] <enigmastrat>      you're all we've got if I get hit by a train
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:30:10] <slofgren> when can we apt-get --purge remove dxh
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:30:11] <johnc4510-laptop> i just wondered if anything was said about it yet   slofgren
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:30:19] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:30:22] <slofgren> hehe
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:30:41] <johnc4510-laptop> Wolf_45: you want to help out on the web stuff?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:31:32] <Wolf_45>  I can probably manage some of the simple stuff......sure :-)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:31:41] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:31:44] <johnc4510-laptop> ty
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:07] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll try to get in contact with the lug over the holidays
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:07] <slofgren> Wolf_45: do you have an account
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:20] <slofgren> on the server
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:21] <johnc4510-laptop> oh right, that would help
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:24] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:43] <Wolf_45>  <chuckle> if you don't mind "1992-ish design"  ;->
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:32:44] <slofgren> wolf I am on gmail so just email me
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:33:03] <enigmastrat>      That's why the design is done :)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:33:05] <Wolf_45>  Ummm....not that I'm aware of.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:33:12] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:33:28] <johnc4510-laptop> Wolf_45: this will be mostly filling in the content
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:33:35] <johnc4510-laptop> as design is done
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:33:48] <johnc4510-laptop> kk?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:00] <Wolf_45>  Ah, good - "fill in the blanks".
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:08] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:09] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:16] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:20] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: ty
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:28] <tyche>    And between johnc4510-laptop and I, we've got lots of blanks.
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:29] <johnc4510-laptop> nice job
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:36] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:34:38] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:35:05] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: anything else you want to dicuss about the server?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:35:41]     * johnc4510-laptop nudges slofgren
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:35:44] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:03] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, he's obviously busy
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:05] <johnc4510-laptop> so
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:14] <johnc4510-laptop> anyone have anything else?
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:21] <johnc4510-laptop> floor is open
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:30] <johnc4510-laptop> except to tyche
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:31] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:32] <tyche>    "Please watch your step"
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:37] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:36:58] <slofgren> oops
[Sun Dec 16 2007] [21:37:00] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, then we'll dismiss and thanks to all :)


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