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NEXT ARIZONA 
If you have additions to the Agenda, please post them here after confirming with Johnc4510 or IanMcewen
Agenda
- Introductions
- Team Reports
Log
This will be posted after the meeting.
[Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:02:22] <johnc4510> ok, we ready to start ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:02:34] <tyche> Yep [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:13] <johnc4510> ok [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:23] <johnc4510> any new members here? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:31] <blaaaaahhh> i'm a new man! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:35] <johnc4510> tyche: how haven't we intro'd [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:36] <blaaaaahhh> I'm blaaaaahhh!!! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:40] <johnc4510> LOL [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:53] <johnc4510> draker: you're a visitor right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:03:54] <tyche> draker, Wolf_45 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:00] <posingaspopular> yea they had me take stupid courses [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:09] <posingaspopular> i tested out of computers thankfully [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:24] <Wolf_45> Hey, I was here last week! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:25] <tyche> Hey, we're an equal opportunity picker. Make them introduce themselves, too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:37] <draker> visitor? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:38] <johnc4510> yeah Wolf_45 did it last wk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:04:42] <tyche> Ah, OK Wolf_45. You're off the hook. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:01] <draker> I'm just hangin out.. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:05] <blaaaaahhh> what about me? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:13] <draker> This channel is more active that #ubuntu-oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:19] <johnc4510> draker: well, you still have to intro yourself [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:20] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:29] <johnc4510> just a line or two about you [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:33] <blaaaaahhh> I want to introduce me! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:42] <johnc4510> team this is blaaaaahhh [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:45] <johnc4510> happy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:46] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:50] <johnc4510> LOL [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:50] <blaaaaahhh> no. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:52] <tyche> C'mon draker. Anyone named Craig can't be all bad. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:57] <blaaaaahhh> I must introduce me. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:05:57] <Wolf_45> psssst, tyche. My week to be in the pickle barrel is in January. ;-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:08] <johnc4510> draker: tell us where you are from [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:17] <blaaaaahhh> :D [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:27] <draker> Oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:27] * word guesses oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:34] <word> damnit >< [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:36] <posingaspopular> draker: that's because you're never around in ubuntu-oregon [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:38] <word> no i look like an idiot [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:41] <posingaspopular> you haven't said anything all day [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:06:53] * johnc4510 ok, i think draker is from the oregon team and is visiting [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:00] <johnc4510> so we'll move on [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:01] <tyche> Welcome, draker. We really aren't crazy. We only seem that way. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:06] <blaaaaahhh> my turn! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:08] <draker> posingaspopular, look again. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:11] * word thinks draker already said he was from oregon and visiting :P [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:12] <blaaaaahhh> Everyone, i am blaaaaahhh. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:14] <johnc4510> yes, welcome draker [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:16] <blaaaaahhh> In a past life, I was t00na. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:19] <draker> Thanks. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:23] <posingaspopular> oh fine, 4pm. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:23] <blaaaaahhh> But I moved on... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:26] <blaaaaahhh> for a week... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:28] * word thinks blaaaaahhh is hindu [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:29] <posingaspopular> let's get this meeting going... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:36] <blaaaaahhh> Just one week, then i'm back to t00na [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:39] * blaaaaahhh done [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:42] * johnc4510 ok i have the floor again please [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:44] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:49] <draker> posingaspopular, I am up all night usually =) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:52] <johnc4510> next is the server [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:07:54] <johnc4510> so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:00] <posingaspopular> yea that sounds like me too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:13] <johnc4510> tomorrow we should have the domain name up and running [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:17] <johnc4510> azloco.org [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:20] <johnc4510> so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:34] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: can we load the page you have? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:41] <johnc4510> i know it's not done but [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:43] <word> johnc4510: is it propogating? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:50] * word just wanted to say propogating [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:08:58] <johnc4510> i would like to get something up on the server [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:09:51] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: you here? johnc4510 nudges enigmastrat [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:09:55] <enigmastrat> hey [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:00] <johnc4510> ehy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:02] <johnc4510> hey [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:07] <enigmastrat> sorry, I was making sure my dog couldn't dig out of my yard [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:17] <johnc4510> can we can your page loaded on the server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:25] <enigmastrat> sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:32] <enigmastrat> you all see it? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:37] <johnc4510> i'm doing the domain name tomorrow, and i would like to see it up [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:40] <johnc4510> yes [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:42] <johnc4510> i did [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:10:53] <johnc4510> http://home.cypheye.com:8000/azloco/ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:04] <johnc4510> that is the link to the prototype [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:26] <johnc4510> i know some changes could still be made [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:32] <enigmastrat> can I get the server IP? I have misplacedc it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:11:47] <johnc4510> 12.159.65.83 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:22] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: it's no problem to make changes after it's up on the server is it? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:27] <enigmastrat> nope [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:30] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:32] <word> i <3 it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:42] <enigmastrat> in fact, there will still be tons of changes to be made [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:47] <enigmastrat> right now it;'s still raw HTML [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:12:53] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:01] <word> enigmastrat: thought about making it a template for a CMS? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:14] <johnc4510> so, like out in the right hand side, we can put our links that we want? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:16] <word> would take most of the hard work out of it i'd think [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:39] <enigmastrat> I've never done a CMS template, but I'm willing to learn [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:45] <Wolf_45> raw HTML works for me......for what that's worth. :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:13:53] <enigmastrat> I'd like to do PHP [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:19] <tyche> Do we have PHP on the server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:33] <enigmastrat> it's easy to setup, I'm not sure if it's there already [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:40] <word> hmm best known CMS's are wordpress and Drupal, i'd reccomend drupal tbh. You can probably download a template and take a look at how it's done, or find some help documentation [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:40] <johnc4510> those are all things we can discuss as we go along. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:14:50] <blaaaaahhh> do we have Rails on the server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:09] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: so, like out in the right hand side, we can put our links that we want? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:19] <johnc4510> in the brown section [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:38] <johnc4510> or whatever that color is hee hee [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:45] <word> i think it'd look ugly to have links there :-/ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:45] <johnc4510> ubuntu brown i guess [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:48] <enigmastrat> That would be ok, but I've got the menus at the top for that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:15:53] <word> it's probably more intended to be centered [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:16:00] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: k, looking [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:16:30] <enigmastrat> mouse over Team, Ubuntu, and LUGs [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:16:56] <enigmastrat> I can make them more Menu-esque to be more obvious [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:10] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: nice, there not hot yet i see [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:12] <johnc4510> also [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:26] <enigmastrat> right, they don't link to anything [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:37] <johnc4510> one team page is missing at a quick glance, the main team wiki page [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:45] <johnc4510> np [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:17:57] <enigmastrat> ok, that'll get added to the list when we get all the links in there [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:04] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:13] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: you've done a great job btw [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:14] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:15] <johnc4510> ty [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:20] <enigmastrat> thank you [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:21] <blaaaaahhh> johnc4510: does the server have rails? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:18:53] <johnc4510> blaaaaahhh: i don't think so yet, ask slofgren next time he's in channel [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:09] <johnc4510> he knows more about what's been installed [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:13] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:15] <johnc4510> now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:19:41] * johnc4510 does anyone have comments or suggestions about the page ?? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:15] <tyche> It had been suggested that we put the Team logo at the top. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:22] <johnc4510> likes, dislikes [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:25] <johnc4510> suggestions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:33] <blaaaaahhh> RAILS [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:43] <enigmastrat> Why do you want rails? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:47] <johnc4510> kk, blaaaaahhh wants rails [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:20:47] <blaaaaahhh> SRSLY, PHP is blaaaaahhh [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:12] <tyche> Anything like that takes space on the very small hard drive. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:31] <tyche> We have to work within our limits [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:31] <Polygon89> i dont like the cactus/mesa/mountian thing on the right hand side. why are cacti and mountains growing horizontally? maybe change it so its not a straight vertial line, like a torn page but i dont like what we have now. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:46] <blaaaaahhh> i know, but we'll only have a CMS on it, right? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:21:59] <johnc4510> Polygon89: kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:02] <tyche> Even that takes space, blaaaaahhh [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:15] <blaaaaahhh> how big is the hard drive? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:23] <enigmastrat> do you know rails? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:34] * blaaaaahhh learning it for #tol [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:53] <enigmastrat> the blaaaaahhh is coding it for LoCo [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:22:54] <johnc4510> Polygon89: would you rather see that blank, or another type of outline [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:07] <blaaaaahhh> yay! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:07] <Polygon89> like a torn page or something [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:15] <Polygon89> something not like straight vertical line like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:21] <Polygon89> something uneven [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:31] <enigmastrat> like the rest of the border? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:34] <johnc4510> like a fuzz effect? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:49] <Polygon89> im thinking like a torn page you know [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:23:59] <Polygon89> you tear a page in half and it like has hills and valleys and stuff [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:09] <Polygon89> or something along those lines [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:21] <Polygon89> like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:22] * johnc4510 ok, lets have some discussion on Polygon89 idea please [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:23] <Polygon89> the left side is [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:23] <tyche> It's called a deckled edge [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:30] Join SlickMcRunfast_G has joined this channel (n=mark@ip72-208-244-134.ph.ph.cox.net). [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:32] <Polygon89> except only like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:35] <Polygon89> more uneven [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:24:37] <johnc4510> tyche: what do you think? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:13] <tyche> Declked edge wouldn't be bad. Likewise silhouet of cacti done vertically. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:29] <enigmastrat> where would that be at? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:36] <johnc4510> SlickMcRunfast_G: hi, we're discussing this page for server:http://home.cypheye.com:8000/azloco/ [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:36] <tyche> On the right. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:25:55] <tyche> Also, I think it should be centered more. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:22] <enigmastrat> centered is easy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:27] * johnc4510 centered more, or the part with the text expanded maybe [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:27] <tyche> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:38] <johnc4510> it could be wider i think [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:39] <tyche> Yea, maybe that, too. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:51] <johnc4510> to give us more space to text in [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:26:54] <enigmastrat> right now it accomodates down to 800x600 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:22] * johnc4510 well, most folks have bigger monitors than that don't they [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:28] <johnc4510> in this day and age [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:28] <tyche> That explains why it only takes up half my screen. Hee hee [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:29] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:34] <enigmastrat> average is 1024 I believe [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:34] <Polygon89> yeah [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:35] <johnc4510> mine too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:45] <tyche> 1440 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:48] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: ok, can we expand it to the avg [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:49] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:27:58] <enigmastrat> I suppose so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:19] <johnc4510> i'm at 1600x1050 and it's pretty small on the screen [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:20] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:31] <enigmastrat> That's what I'm at too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:35] <enigmastrat> and I agree [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:36] <tyche> johnc4510: showoff. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:44] <johnc4510> tyche: ty [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:44] <enigmastrat> 1680x1050 actually [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:46] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:51] <johnc4510> right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:28:59] <enigmastrat> don't leave out that 80 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:02] <johnc4510> i stand corrected [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:06] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:08] <enigmastrat> it'll feel abandoned [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:13] <johnc4510> sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:15] <johnc4510> ok [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:16] <johnc4510> so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:30] <johnc4510> we're going to expand the page [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:31] <johnc4510> and [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:29:52] <johnc4510> possibly change the border to something like Polygon89 wanted [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:04] <enigmastrat> k [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:10] <johnc4510> we can at least look at that and see how it works [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:12] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:26] * johnc4510 loves it, we are making progress here [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:27] <johnc4510> LOL [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:45] <tyche> Yea, I really think so. :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:30:45] * johnc4510 ok, any other discussion on the page [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:10] <enigmastrat> now it's at http://12.159.65.83/~enigmastrat/azloco [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:31] <enigmastrat> I don't think I have access to root, but it's there for whoever does to copy it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:40] <enigmastrat> *access to the web root [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:31:47] <johnc4510> ok, then, enigmastrat thanks for the hard work [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:32:00] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: kk, i'll talk to slofgren about root for you then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:32:02] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:32:45] <johnc4510> ok, next [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:03] <johnc4510> ed team [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:15] <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:33] <johnc4510> ok, tyche and i have done some work on the page yesterday [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:34] <johnc4510> and [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:48] <johnc4510> i would like to go over it and get ideas and suggestions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:33:51] <johnc4510> first [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:34:21] <Polygon89> i dont think my computer is powerful enough for screencasts, all the vidoes im taking are really low fps... like 16 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:34:31] <johnc4510> under the introduction, i added a gutsy guide [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:34:53] <johnc4510> btw, this team is for education of new and prospective members [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:03] <johnc4510> that guide is very good [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:04] <johnc4510> and [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:12] <johnc4510> i recommend it to all [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:16] <tyche> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:29] <johnc4510> i even learn a few things from it now and then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:33] <johnc4510> so [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:35:40] <tyche> The guide, as you notice, is off-site. But done very well [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:36:14] <johnc4510> the intro section is pretty well done unless you folks have other suggestions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:36:17] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:06] * johnc4510 k, the next section is Ubuntu and we've add the installation link and the upgrade link [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:19] <johnc4510> the upgrade link is in house ubuntu [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:26] <johnc4510> but the install link isn't [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:46] <johnc4510> but it is a good how to on installing i think [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:37:57] <tyche> One thing I will add. johnc4510 and I felt that it was better not to try to re-invent the wheel. We made use of outside resources where they met or exceeded our expectations. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:12] <johnc4510> right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:37] <johnc4510> there were items that we could save time on by using an outside source [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:38] <johnc4510> if [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:43] <johnc4510> they were worthy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:43] <Polygon89> ill add something to that ubuntu guide thing. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:38:48] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:08] <word> i'm at 1024x768 :( [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:10] <johnc4510> Polygon89: what did you have in mind? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:13] <johnc4510> word: kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:28] <Polygon89> in the dvd rip section [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:38] <Polygon89> there is a much easier program then dvd rip (and i think faster too) called handbrake [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:45] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:39:53] <Polygon89> and some guy made a gtk gui out of mono so its even easier to use now instead of having to use the cli options [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:40:34] <tyche> johnc4510: We may need to create an "add-ons" section in somewhere. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:40:48] <johnc4510> Polygon89: kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:10] <tyche> Handbrake sounds like a good candidate for that. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:16] <johnc4510> Polygon89: and tyche i think anybody is able to edit that guide [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:27] <Polygon89> cool. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:31] <tyche> Oh, now there's a thought. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:43] <tyche> I didn't look at it that closely [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:41:46] <johnc4510> there is an edit tab at the top [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:42:03] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:42:18] <johnc4510> now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:42:45] <johnc4510> the installing guide is very good because it's in depth and has a lot of screenshot to go with it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:43:02] <johnc4510> it makes it a little easier to follow for new folks [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:43:39] <johnc4510> k, next is the Installing Software guide [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:43:47] <johnc4510> it's out sourced too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:04] <johnc4510> it's one that i have used and recommend to folks for a long time now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:11] <Polygon89> i wonder if they updated the numlock on startup [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:24] <johnc4510> it goes over all the ways to install [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:25] <Polygon89> why gnome hasnt implemented this already by default is unknown to me.. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:44] <johnc4510> Polygon89: i would have to look at that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:44:59] <Polygon89> the feisty guide didnt work as the x11 folder got moved [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:45:00] <Polygon89> lol [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:45:16] <johnc4510> i have a written guide i follow at set up and numlock is one of the things [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:45:27] <johnc4510> oh yeah, it did [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:17] <johnc4510> /etc/gdm/Init/Default [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:22] <johnc4510> that's where it is now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:46] <Polygon89> well before you had to put it in like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:50] <Polygon89> xorg.conf or something [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:56] <johnc4510> yep [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:46:56] <Polygon89> somewhere in the x11 folder [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:47:02] <johnc4510> yep [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:47:13] <johnc4510> k, any suggestions so far [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:47:15] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:10] <Polygon89> not really [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:19] * johnc4510 in the next sub header, accessibility thru Office, we have listed the apps available at install [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:31] <johnc4510> with links to the home pages of each app [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:50] <tyche> As well as short descriptions [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:50] <johnc4510> you can take a look at accessories, and see what i mean [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:48:59] <johnc4510> right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:22] <johnc4510> now, it is our plan to add optional apps below, as we go along [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:23] <johnc4510> but [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:35] <johnc4510> we wanted to get the pages going with the basics [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:49:47] <Polygon89> also tovid can be used to make video dvds and that site doesnt have it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:17] * johnc4510 does anyone have ideas or suggestions on the basic setup or what we've done so far [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:22] <johnc4510> good or bad [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:23] <johnc4510> np [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:50:24] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:51:38] * johnc4510 k, does everyone think a new or prospective member could follow these items and benefit from them? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:13] <johnc4510> kk, then we will continue on in this manner, but [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:20] <Polygon89> :D [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:25] <johnc4510> anyone having suggestions, just let us know [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:26] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:29] <johnc4510> now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:52:47] * johnc4510 we want to implement a mail support idea [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:04] <Polygon89> oh? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:18] <tyche> Basically, to help people to help themselves [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:27] <johnc4510> this would be a central mail address where they could email a question or problem to an we as a team would try to help them via email [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:30] <tyche> Or to find out where to get help that we can't provide. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:38] <johnc4510> right [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:49] <johnc4510> everyone like that idea [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:49] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:53:56] <Polygon89> sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:07] <johnc4510> kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:22] <johnc4510> then, we need to figure out how to do that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:27] <johnc4510> what service to use [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:33] <johnc4510> and how to implement it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:40] <johnc4510> now [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:54:46] <tyche> And still retain our individual privacy. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:03] <johnc4510> the idea i had was to have a gmail account set up to forward to the team mailing list [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:08] <johnc4510> but, [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:26] <johnc4510> i am open to ANY suggestions on this thought [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:55:53] <johnc4510> Polygon89: any ideas any this? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:56:05] <johnc4510> or a different way to go about it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:56:27] <Polygon89> how would we view the messages? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:56:40] <johnc4510> Polygon89: if we set it up that way [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:01] <johnc4510> any team member register for the mailing list would get the email [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:03] <johnc4510> and then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:09] <johnc4510> could respond to it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:16] <Polygon89> ah [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:23] <Polygon89> wouldent that remove our privacy then? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:35] <Polygon89> if any of us cared about it [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:40] <tyche> No, because the gmail account would be the filter. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:47] <Polygon89> but when we respond [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:51] <Polygon89> they would see our address [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:57:52] <johnc4510> no, no one can send to the mail list unless registered [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:03] <johnc4510> they might [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:06] <johnc4510> :( [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:17] <johnc4510> so, any other ideas then [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:18] <Polygon89> when we respond to the email, they would see its from our email to the persn [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:21] <Polygon89> i dont really care [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:25] <tyche> Yea, that was a side of it that I didn't think about. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:26] <Polygon89> but we wont have privacy [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:33] <johnc4510> tyche: me either [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:37] <johnc4510> that would be bad [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:38] <Polygon89> gmail does a good job of spam filtering [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:58:40] <Polygon89> so its fine [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:02] <johnc4510> then maybe we should just have a gmail account? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:26] <tyche> Or a forum set up somewhere. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:28] <johnc4510> but then how do we get the rest of the team involved in helping out [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:39] <Polygon89> the mailing list idea works [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:49] <Polygon89> its just like with all other mailing lists, you wont be able to hide your email [Sun Nov 18 2007] [21:59:52] <Polygon89> i dont think its a prob [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:00:31] <johnc4510> Polygon89: ok, you seem to know about servers, isn't there an app for setting up an email server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:08] <Polygon89> mailman [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:10] <Polygon89> i believe [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:15] <johnc4510> enigmastrat: isn't there an app for setting up an email server? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:17] <Polygon89> is pretty much the standard for mailing lists [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:21] <johnc4510> Polygon89: could be [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:32] <johnc4510> lets see what enigmastrat knows about this [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:33] <johnc4510> too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:01:45] <enigmastrat> you mean for sending e-mail? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:00] <Polygon89> mailing lists [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:07] <johnc4510> for having a mail server so we can have a support email account [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:13] <enigmastrat> I haven't messed with mailing lists [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:17] <johnc4510> to help new and prospective members [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:21] <Wolf_45> For mailing lists, mailman is pretty much the de facto standard [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:21] <johnc4510> ah kk [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:27] <johnc4510> Wolf_45: hi [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:35] <johnc4510> is that a big app [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:43] <johnc4510> size wise i mean [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:02:51] <johnc4510> we are limited on space [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:03:35] <Polygon89> check it in synaptic [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:03:47] <johnc4510> is this it?: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:04:05] <Polygon89> most likely [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:04:47] <johnc4510> 40 mb download size [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:04:55] <johnc4510> probably bigger once unpacked [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:06] <johnc4510> maybe we could work with that [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:13] <Polygon89> check synaptic...i dont think it would be THAT big... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:20] <Polygon89> its just a mailing list app...cli... [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:24] <johnc4510> that is the synaptic size [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:25] <Wolf_45> Latest tarball (2.1.9) is 7829201 bytes, but that's not dependencies [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:29] <johnc4510> i looked [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:41] <Polygon89> maybe all the deps add up to be 40 [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:42] <Polygon89> but like [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:50] <Polygon89> intensive gui programs are not even 40 mb in size [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:54] <Polygon89> how could that be [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:05:59] <johnc4510> true [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:22] <johnc4510> kk, i'll talk with slofgren some this wk and see what he thinks too [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:34] <johnc4510> so, can we table this till next wk? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:41] <Polygon89> sure [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:50] <tyche> I think that's a good idea [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:06:53] <johnc4510> kk, anything else to talk about? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:00] <johnc4510> anyone [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:04] <tyche> Sharing information? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:17] <johnc4510> tyche: expand please [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:26] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:35] <tyche> Since we're linking to other sites, we should offer them the information we've developed on our own [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:44] <johnc4510> true [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:49] <johnc4510> like with the lugs [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:07:51] <johnc4510> ? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:08] <blaaaaahhh> is the meeting over? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:14] <tyche> The lugs, the other sites that we linked to. Basically anyone who needs it. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:25] <tyche> Even other Teams. Hee he [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:35] <johnc4510> blaaaaahhh: in a sec [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:43] <johnc4510> good idea tyche [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:51] <Wolf_45> johnc4510, mailman requirements are at http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/requirements.html :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:08:58] <johnc4510> Wolf_45: ty [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:25] * Wolf_45 told you he'd come in handy for "something"! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:41] <tyche> :-) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:47] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:50] <johnc4510> nice [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:09:57] <johnc4510> ok, anything else? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:02] <blaaaaahhh> RAILS! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:06] <blaaaaahhh> REBIRTHING! [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:19] <johnc4510> blaaaaahhh: i've got that down to ask slofgren about [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:20] <johnc4510> :) [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:24] <enigmastrat> useless buzzword [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:29] <blaaaaahhh> And the rebirthing? [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:32] <Polygon89> lo [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:37] <blaaaaahhh> ol [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:42] <tyche> first you have to be born. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:54] <blaaaaahhh> I was. [Sun Nov 18 2007] [22:10:55] <johnc4510> kk, meeting over, and thanks to all, nicely done
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