07October21
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MEETINGS |
Sunday 02 Msrch 2025 |
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NEXT ARIZONA 
If you have additions to the Agenda, please post them here after confirming with Johnc4510 or IanMcewen
Agenda
- Introductions
- Announcements
- Team Reports
- Agenda for next week
Log
Oct 21 21:05:16 <johnc4510> ok, lets get started then Oct 21 21:05:25 <SloggerKhan> i have a gray background for it. Oct 21 21:06:02 <johnc4510> we usually start with introductions of new members, so kennymc0_ could you tell a little something about yourself please Oct 21 21:07:14 <Polygon89> whee Oct 21 21:07:21 <johnc4510> hmm Oct 21 21:07:25 <kennymc0_> uhh Oct 21 21:07:37 <johnc4510> could you introduce yourself please Oct 21 21:07:43 <kennymc0_> i go to devry Oct 21 21:07:45 <johnc4510> as a new member Oct 21 21:08:06 <johnc4510> k Oct 21 21:08:08 <kennymc0_> i even get to take a final exam at 7 in the morning tomorrow Oct 21 21:08:13 <johnc4510> ah Oct 21 21:08:22 <johnc4510> how long using ubuntu Oct 21 21:08:38 <kennymc0_> i think close to 2 years now Oct 21 21:08:53 <johnc4510> kenny is also word's brother for those of you who don't know Oct 21 21:09:12 <tyche> And we could always get word to tell us about him. Oct 21 21:09:14 <tyche> Hee hee Oct 21 21:09:15 <johnc4510> kennymc0_, welcome to the team, glad to have you Oct 21 21:09:19 <kennymc0_> thx Oct 21 21:09:27 <johnc4510> any other new members? Oct 21 21:09:41 <johnc4510> paul928, have you introduced yourself before? Oct 21 21:09:55 <Theou> I guess I am new. This is the first meeting I've managed to make. Oct 21 21:09:56 <paul928> it's been awhile. Oct 21 21:10:06 <t00na> Is the meeting starting? Oct 21 21:10:12 <johnc4510> paul928, why don't you go again Oct 21 21:10:15 <johnc4510> t00na, yes Oct 21 21:10:19 <t00na> Oh. Oct 21 21:10:21 <paul928> Anyway I'm Paul Westerman from Yuma Oct 21 21:10:28 <t00na> Hi Paul. Oct 21 21:10:31 <johnc4510> welcome paul Oct 21 21:10:41 <t00na> I just did. Oct 21 21:10:44 <paul928> I've beeen using Ubuntu since Warty Oct 21 21:10:47 <johnc4510> ah Oct 21 21:10:49 <tyche> Hi, paul928 Oct 21 21:10:50 <johnc4510> long time Oct 21 21:10:51 <t00na> :O Oct 21 21:11:10 <paul928> hello all Oct 21 21:11:12 <t00na> That's like, before Mark Shuttleworth used it! Oct 21 21:11:14 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:11:41 <johnc4510> k, welcome paul928 and thanks for coming by again Oct 21 21:11:43 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:11:54 <johnc4510> Theou, how about you now please Oct 21 21:12:05 <Theou> I am Mark from Phoenix. A native. Oct 21 21:12:18 <t00na> Hi Mark. Oct 21 21:12:18 <paul928> I usually remember the meeting...about Monday morning Oct 21 21:12:18 <Theou> I've been using Ubuntu since just before 6.10 came out. Oct 21 21:12:28 <johnc4510> paul928, :) Oct 21 21:12:34 <t00na> Cool. Oct 21 21:12:35 <johnc4510> nice Theou Oct 21 21:12:49 <Polygon89> welcome Oct 21 21:12:54 <Theou> Danke Oct 21 21:12:58 <tyche> Hi, Theou Oct 21 21:12:59 <johnc4510> yes welcome Theou Oct 21 21:13:13 <johnc4510> ok, next announcements Oct 21 21:13:16 <t00na> :O Theou spoke German! Oct 21 21:13:30 <Theou> Heh. Oct 21 21:13:36 <br24> I think many people can Oct 21 21:13:41 <johnc4510> is everyone using gutsy now +1 is yes -1 if no Oct 21 21:13:47 <tyche> +1 Oct 21 21:13:52 <johnc4510> +1 Oct 21 21:13:52 <Theou> +1 Oct 21 21:13:56 <t00na> -1, but I will when I get a new hard drive Oct 21 21:14:02 <johnc4510> cool Oct 21 21:14:07 <SloggerKhan> +1/0 (2 installs. not fully switched) Oct 21 21:14:15 <johnc4510> nice Oct 21 21:14:16 <paul928> -1 kind of Oct 21 21:14:20 <kennymc0_> +1 Oct 21 21:14:28 <br24> +1 Oct 21 21:14:30 * t00na feels so alone... Oct 21 21:14:37 <johnc4510> cool, it looks like most everyone then Oct 21 21:14:58 <johnc4510> any problems you've solve that could be share with the team? Oct 21 21:14:58 <Theou> I just upgraded last night. Oct 21 21:15:00 <Polygon89> +1 Oct 21 21:15:02 <Polygon89> :D Oct 21 21:15:07 <Theou> No problems. Oct 21 21:15:11 <johnc4510> anyone Oct 21 21:15:17 <tyche> Mine went smooth Oct 21 21:15:25 <t00na> Um... I think that the very last beta or release candidate was the same as the final release Oct 21 21:15:35 <br24> I just need to setup ndiswrapper on my laptop Oct 21 21:15:45 <johnc4510> i had some install problems but got past those now i'm having nvidia problems Oct 21 21:15:51 <paul928> The upgrade broke X Oct 21 21:15:56 <johnc4510> resolution issures Oct 21 21:16:00 <kennymc0_> word screwed up the upgrade so i had to format and start from scratch Oct 21 21:16:08 <paul928> NVidia problems here also Oct 21 21:16:15 <SloggerKhan> no out of the box dual monitor support for me. Oct 21 21:16:20 <tyche> for once, I had no NVidia problems Oct 21 21:16:22 <tyche> yet Oct 21 21:16:24 * jsonder (n=chatzill@ip68-231-151-57.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Oct 21 21:16:27 <Theou> I guess I lucked out. My server doesn't run any X at all. Oct 21 21:16:30 <johnc4510> i can't seem to get the drivers to recognize the correct screen resolutions Oct 21 21:16:30 <br24> I have 2 systems using nvidia, and no problems Oct 21 21:16:33 <Polygon89> no problems here Oct 21 21:16:43 <johnc4510> br24, what cards? Oct 21 21:17:30 <br24> couldnt say at the moment Oct 21 21:17:34 <johnc4510> ok, well it seems everyone is pretty happy with gutsy so far then, right? Oct 21 21:17:36 <br24> have to look them up Oct 21 21:17:38 <johnc4510> k Oct 21 21:17:40 <paul928> john4510- I had the same problem with NVidia 5200 on upgrade, no problem there with fresh install Oct 21 21:17:53 <johnc4510> paul928, ty, Oct 21 21:18:08 <johnc4510> i'm please overall with gutsy Oct 21 21:18:19 <johnc4510> lots of nice new things to play with and Oct 21 21:18:31 <johnc4510> it is running very smoothly so far Oct 21 21:18:32 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:18:38 <johnc4510> another hit i think Oct 21 21:18:42 <tyche> Seems a bit faster, too Oct 21 21:18:45 <SloggerKhan> Yeah, it runs very smooth. Oct 21 21:18:49 <Polygon89> it is Oct 21 21:18:54 <SloggerKhan> GUI responsiveness seems better. Oct 21 21:19:00 <Polygon89> too bad compiz doesnt run with fglrx Oct 21 21:19:10 <Polygon89> but i need 3d more then i do cool windows :D Oct 21 21:19:24 <johnc4510> as most of you know i also work on the UWN and the blog and news section is full of great articles on the gutsy release Oct 21 21:19:31 <johnc4510> almost all positive Oct 21 21:19:33 <Polygon89> uwn? Oct 21 21:19:34 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:19:43 <johnc4510> Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Oct 21 21:19:46 <Polygon89> ah Oct 21 21:19:53 <johnc4510> it goes out all over the Ubuntu World Oct 21 21:20:07 <johnc4510> ok, next then Oct 21 21:20:14 <johnc4510> br24, ed team? Oct 21 21:20:45 <br24> we had a short Edu team meeting Fri night Oct 21 21:21:07 <br24> tyche is typing descriptions on several apps, and is doing a wonderful job at it Oct 21 21:21:24 <br24> Polygon89, can you give everyone any info on screencasts? Oct 21 21:21:35 <johnc4510> the ed team is set up to provide support for new members, it is just starting out : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education and the team is working on this support page Oct 21 21:21:44 <Polygon89> i can use vbox now Oct 21 21:21:48 <Polygon89> now that the kernel isnt updating every day Oct 21 21:22:43 <johnc4510> br24, when might we see some of the stuff tyche has put together up on the page? Oct 21 21:22:50 <br24> so how far along with getting to know about screencasts are you? Oct 21 21:22:50 <Polygon89> gonna see if i can run the recorder program any better cuase of gutsy Oct 21 21:22:51 <johnc4510> i can help with that if needed Oct 21 21:23:09 <br24> we should have some info on our wiki hopefully this week Oct 21 21:23:14 <johnc4510> cool Oct 21 21:23:19 <br24> a couple things to straighten out first Oct 21 21:23:22 <johnc4510> k Oct 21 21:23:27 <br24> jsonder, are you here? Oct 21 21:23:31 <jsonder> yup Oct 21 21:23:34 <Polygon89> ideas for screencasts are welconme Oct 21 21:23:41 <Polygon89> btw** :D Oct 21 21:23:44 <br24> any progress on a basic guide so far? Oct 21 21:23:50 <jsonder> I like the vieo one one the help Oct 21 21:24:09 <johnc4510> ? Oct 21 21:24:21 <jsonder> I have a little laid out , but it is drawing on the ubuntu wiki Oct 21 21:24:36 <jsonder> *can't type* Oct 21 21:24:42 <Polygon89> for a screencast? Oct 21 21:24:48 <Polygon89> or the guide Oct 21 21:24:53 <johnc4510> jsonder, that's good, we need to use those resources as much as possible Oct 21 21:25:02 <jsonder> No, I was looking at the available screencasts Oct 21 21:25:18 <Polygon89> oh? Oct 21 21:25:24 <br24> okay Oct 21 21:25:34 <jsonder> The straight text-driven stuff is pretty dry Oct 21 21:25:38 <br24> do you have anything to say about the guide? Oct 21 21:25:52 <Polygon89> ok Oct 21 21:25:53 <br24> yeah I do agree with that Oct 21 21:26:20 <jsonder> nope but I'll have an un-htmled page to you in 2 days if i can fit stuff in tyches system. Oct 21 21:26:28 <tyche> br24: I saw some of the stuff jsonder is talking about. We may be able to just link to it. Oct 21 21:26:29 <br24> very good Oct 21 21:26:35 <br24> good idea Oct 21 21:26:38 <johnc4510> nice Oct 21 21:26:39 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:26:49 <tyche> jsonder: you have mail. The instructions. Oct 21 21:26:54 <br24> everyone, any ideas or thoughts are always welcome Oct 21 21:26:57 <jsonder> I sent you a response Oct 21 21:27:09 <br24> thats all I have Oct 21 21:27:11 <johnc4510> kk Oct 21 21:27:20 <johnc4510> anyone have any questions for br24 Oct 21 21:27:26 <johnc4510> about the ed team Oct 21 21:27:40 <jsonder> There is a lot of stuff available on the wiki Oct 21 21:27:56 <Theou> I'm not really up to speed on what they do. I'll read the wiki page mentioned earlier. Oct 21 21:28:02 <jsonder> we should use what is worth while Oct 21 21:28:48 <jsonder> https://help.ubuntu.com/ Oct 21 21:29:37 <jsonder> Where did everyone go to? Oct 21 21:29:43 <johnc4510> k, thx to br24 and the ed team for all the hard work so far it's much appreciated :) Oct 21 21:29:46 <johnc4510> sorry Oct 21 21:29:57 <johnc4510> ok, next the server team Oct 21 21:30:17 <johnc4510> slofgren, is busy with family stuff tonight so i'm stepping in Oct 21 21:30:39 <johnc4510> server address: 12.159.65.83 Oct 21 21:30:52 <jsonder> whatch where you put your feet. Oct 21 21:30:56 <johnc4510> we have a basic setup now Oct 21 21:31:32 <johnc4510> anyone wanting access to the server should email slofgren at slofgren@gemail.com Oct 21 21:31:48 <johnc4510> he will set you up with basic access via ssh Oct 21 21:31:50 <Polygon89> any news on when we are gonna get a new hd? xD Oct 21 21:31:55 <johnc4510> no Oct 21 21:32:06 <johnc4510> but slofgren and i have been discussing it Oct 21 21:32:09 <johnc4510> and Oct 21 21:32:21 <johnc4510> we are going to get this one set up first then Oct 21 21:32:44 <johnc4510> image it to a new hd and see about getting that installed then Oct 21 21:32:59 <johnc4510> it's hard for us to get physical access to the server Oct 21 21:33:02 <johnc4510> so Oct 21 21:33:13 <Polygon89> oh Oct 21 21:33:23 <johnc4510> when we do we want to be ready to do all of what is needed at one time Oct 21 21:33:28 <jsonder> john4510: should that be slofgren@gmail.com ? Oct 21 21:33:35 <johnc4510> without interupting the current setup Oct 21 21:33:40 <johnc4510> yes Oct 21 21:33:53 <Polygon89> where is it Oct 21 21:34:11 <johnc4510> phoenix in some tech server facility Oct 21 21:34:22 <paul928> where's the server located.....physically? Oct 21 21:34:33 <johnc4510> but the lug is the one who has access Oct 21 21:34:36 <johnc4510> you see Oct 21 21:34:45 <Polygon89> oh Oct 21 21:34:54 <johnc4510> the delvry lug donated the use of the server to us Oct 21 21:34:56 <johnc4510> and Oct 21 21:34:56 <Polygon89> hence the reason why it took so long to get set up? Oct 21 21:34:58 <Polygon89> ah Oct 21 21:35:02 <johnc4510> right Oct 21 21:35:18 <johnc4510> they are the ones with physical access to the machine Oct 21 21:35:20 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:35:39 <johnc4510> so, we have to work through them at their convenience Oct 21 21:35:45 <johnc4510> but still Oct 21 21:35:52 <johnc4510> it is a good deal for us Oct 21 21:36:01 <johnc4510> free server access Oct 21 21:36:01 <Polygon89> yeah Oct 21 21:36:02 <paul928> maybe we need to buy a server? with our own access? Oct 21 21:36:03 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:36:23 <johnc4510> paul928, that would be great the problem is $'s Oct 21 21:36:25 <johnc4510> :) Oct 21 21:36:39 <jsonder> hosting costs too Oct 21 21:36:39 <johnc4510> ok, next Oct 21 21:36:56 <paul928> what does the ariza group need the server for? Oct 21 21:36:59 <johnc4510> this wk, i'm going to buy the domain name Oct 21 21:37:38 <johnc4510> paul928, we plan to use it for team support and helping to bring the lugs of the state closer together Oct 21 21:37:42 <johnc4510> and Oct 21 21:37:55 <johnc4510> anything else we can think of Oct 21 21:38:01 <johnc4510> down the road Oct 21 21:38:10 <johnc4510> back to the domain name Oct 21 21:38:22 <johnc4510> we had already decided on Oct 21 21:38:34 <johnc4510> azloco.org Oct 21 21:38:42 <johnc4510> short and sweet Oct 21 21:38:48 <johnc4510> i may also buy Oct 21 21:38:54 <johnc4510> azloco.com Oct 21 21:39:10 <paul928> is it available? both of them/ Oct 21 21:39:11 <johnc4510> to round out our addresses Oct 21 21:39:14 <johnc4510> yes Oct 21 21:39:48 <Polygon89> domains are cheap Oct 21 21:39:53 <johnc4510> so after i get them bought and set up we will be official Oct 21 21:39:58 <johnc4510> now Oct 21 21:40:18 <johnc4510> we need to start getting a front page going on the server Oct 21 21:40:22 <johnc4510> note Oct 21 21:40:40 <johnc4510> we are not going to use wordpress or drupal to start with because Oct 21 21:40:53 <johnc4510> our hd is very small in size Oct 21 21:40:55 <johnc4510> so Oct 21 21:41:19 <johnc4510> we need to people with html experience to help in that area Oct 21 21:41:38 <SloggerKhan> css Oct 21 21:41:46 <SloggerKhan> ? Oct 21 21:41:51 <johnc4510> yes we could use css Oct 21 21:41:56 <johnc4510> the templates Oct 21 21:42:26 <johnc4510> http://12.159.65.83/~johnc4510/ Oct 21 21:42:28 <SloggerKhan> I don't know too much about webpages. CSS is like a form of html, right? Oct 21 21:42:40 <johnc4510> that's what i used at that link to the server Oct 21 21:42:50 <johnc4510> SloggerKhan, yes Oct 21 21:42:56 <jsonder> cascading style sheets are an improvement Oct 21 21:43:07 <johnc4510> but i am kind of limited on my knowledge of html Oct 21 21:43:09 <Polygon89> css is easy to learn Oct 21 21:43:13 <Polygon89> its like html Oct 21 21:43:21 <Polygon89> and there are great guides on w3c Oct 21 21:43:21 <johnc4510> so i haven't gotten too far Oct 21 21:43:42 <johnc4510> ok, well, we need some help in this area so Oct 21 21:43:52 <johnc4510> i'm asking for some volunteers :) Oct 21 21:44:08 <johnc4510> btw Oct 21 21:44:16 <Polygon89> help in what area Oct 21 21:44:18 <johnc4510> this doesn't have to be really fancy Oct 21 21:44:34 <johnc4510> Polygon89, at setting up a front server page for the team Oct 21 21:44:39 <jsonder> css for server Oct 21 21:44:52 <johnc4510> for the intro page Oct 21 21:44:54 <jsonder> a couple of templets Oct 21 21:45:12 <johnc4510> where we will link to other pages Oct 21 21:45:13 <johnc4510> like Oct 21 21:45:20 <SloggerKhan> Oh, Oct 21 21:45:21 <johnc4510> the ed team support page Oct 21 21:45:25 <SloggerKhan> I was messing around. Oct 21 21:45:28 <johnc4510> our team wiki Oct 21 21:45:34 <SloggerKhan> I made a mockup, but I don't really like it. Oct 21 21:45:36 <johnc4510> and other things Oct 21 21:45:43 <johnc4510> oh Oct 21 21:45:50 <SloggerKhan> I think we'd talked about it last week. Oct 21 21:46:13 <SloggerKhan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584696 Oct 21 21:46:27 <SloggerKhan> It makes me think of standardized tests. Oct 21 21:46:27 <johnc4510> ok, kennymc0_ word seems to have a lot of knowledge about webpages you think he might be interested? Oct 21 21:47:27 <johnc4510> slofgren, yeah, it's not exactly what i had in mind but nice all the same Oct 21 21:47:44 <Polygon89> hmm Oct 21 21:47:45 <Polygon89> maybe Oct 21 21:48:10 <johnc4510> ok, well, i'll try to get some help on this project during the next wk Oct 21 21:48:19 <johnc4510> hopefully Oct 21 21:48:40 <johnc4510> by next meeting we'll have some kind of project started Oct 21 21:49:01 <johnc4510> anyone have anything else they want to discuss? Oct 21 21:49:16 <paul928> john4510-have you considered outside hosting? I'n using nearlyfreespeech.net and the cost is for me is about a dollar/month including a mysql server Oct 21 21:50:01 <johnc4510> that's not bad, can you email me the particulars at johnc4510-cox@ubuntu.net Oct 21 21:50:04 <johnc4510> ? Oct 21 21:50:04 <paul928> They seem to host several Ubuntu related sites Oct 21 21:50:08 <johnc4510> k Oct 21 21:50:12 <jsonder> paul928: What is the useage? Oct 21 21:50:57 <johnc4510> paul928, did you get the above? Oct 21 21:51:11 <jsonder> monthly bandwidth consumption Oct 21 21:51:21 <paul928> they charge for storage .001 per MB and bandwidth, .001/ MB Oct 21 21:51:34 <johnc4510> ah Oct 21 21:51:36 <johnc4510> ok Oct 21 21:52:00 <jsonder> $.001 or 0.001? Oct 21 21:52:08 <johnc4510> can you shot some particulars or a link or something like that so we can look it over? Oct 21 21:52:16 <johnc4510> s/shot/shoot Oct 21 21:52:18 <paul928> But they run FreeBSD on their servers that are located in the Phoenix area. Oct 21 21:52:35 <johnc4510> well, that's at least open source Oct 21 21:52:36 <johnc4510> so Oct 21 21:52:41 <johnc4510> it would be ok Oct 21 21:52:45 <paul928> 1 cent per MB Oct 21 21:53:11 <johnc4510> i know that drupal is around 50mb by itself Oct 21 21:53:34 <johnc4510> wordpress might be a little less Oct 21 21:53:36 <johnc4510> not sure Oct 21 21:53:42 <paul928> and 1 cent per day for the mysql server, I'm hosting several Drupal sites there Oct 21 21:54:19 <johnc4510> paul928, can you give me a link to their page so i can look it over? Oct 21 21:54:36 <johnc4510> the main page showing prices etc Oct 21 21:54:59 <Polygon89> hmm Oct 21 21:55:03 <paul928> https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ Oct 21 21:55:10 <johnc4510> ok, anything else that you want to discuss? Oct 21 21:55:13 <johnc4510> paul928, ty Oct 21 21:56:20 <johnc4510> ok, then meeting over, thanks to the new and returning members, we're glad to have you here, feel free to hang out in the channel and get to know us better :)
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