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  1. Agenda for next meeting Tue, May 12th, 2009
  2. Past Meetings
    1. Tue, May 5th, 2009
      1. Minutes
      2. Agenda
    2. Tue, April 28th, 2009
      1. Minutes
      2. Agenda
    3. Tue, April 21st, 2009
    4. Tue, April 14th, 2009
      1. Minutes
      2. Agenda
    5. Tue, April 7th, 2009
    6. Tue, March 31st, 2009
    7. Tue, March 24th, 2009
      1. Minutes
      2. Agenda
    8. Tue, March 17th, 2009
      1. Minutes
      2. Agenda
    9. Tue, March 10th, 2009
    10. Tue, March 3rd, 2009
    11. Tue, February 24, 2009
    12. Tue, February 17, 2009
    13. Tue, February 10, 2009
    14. Tue, January 27, 2009
    15. Tue, January 20, 2009
    16. Tue, November 25, 2008
    17. Tue, November 18, 2008
    18. Tue, November 11, 2008
    19. Tue, November 4, 2008
    20. Tue, October 28, 2008
    21. Tue, October 21, 2008
    22. Tue, October 14, 2008
    23. Tue, March 18, 2008
    24. Tue, March 4, 2008
    25. Tue, February 19, 2008
    26. Tue, February 12, 2008
    27. Tue, February 5, 2008
    28. Minutes and Logs
    29. Tue, July 10 (canceled)
    30. Tue, Jun 12
    31. Tue, May 29
    32. Tue, May 15
    33. Tue, April 17
    34. Tue, Apr 3 (canceled)
    35. Mon, Mar 19
    36. Mon, Mar 5
    37. Wed, Feb 21

NOTE: Team meeting times and locations have changed.

The kernel team holds weekly public meetings on irc.freenode.net in #ubuntu-meeting, on Tuesdays from 17:00 UTC to 18:00 UTC. The meeting is skipped for weeks where there is a public Ubuntu Developer Meeting. If there are any discussion points or items for decision that you would like to add to the agenda below, add an item to it and begin preparations to present a short introduction to the topic on #ubuntu-meeting during the scheduled session.

If you have have been working hard on the project and want to let others know what you have been up to, try to summarize it on the Reporting Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReportingPage

As usual, anyone interested in the development of the Ubuntu Kernel are welcome to attend.

Agenda for next meeting Tue, May 12th, 2009

  • Open Action Items
    • apw smb ogasawara arrange UDS session on regressions
    • manjo to send out list of HW affected by suspend/resume issues on kernel-team
    • smb schedule a session for end-of-life stable update kernels
    • manjo chairs meeting next week

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Jaunty
    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Karmic Status
    • Alpha-1 may 14th
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
    • Regressions
    • Bug day report
  • Open discussion
  • Next Meeting Chair Selection

Past Meetings

Tue, May 5th, 2009

Minutes

Agenda

  • Open Action Items
    • ogasawara smb_tp apw to discuss regression lists (or arrange UDS session)
    • pgraner to schedule a UDS session for X lockup bug squashing
    • manjo to deep dive on suspend/resume bugs to find patterns

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Jaunty
    • Intrepid
      • Stefan - what are you doing with the continuing flood of 2.6.27.y updates?
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Karmic Status
    • Alpha-1 may 14th
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
    • Regressions
    • Bug day report
  • Open discussion
  • Next Meeting Chair Selection

Tue, April 28th, 2009

Minutes

Agenda

  • Open Action Items
    • bradf to chair next meeting
    • pgraner to get agenda ready for next meeting
    • awe to report to kernel-team list with LPIA testing status
    • ogasawara smb_tp apw to discuss regression lists
    • pgraner to schedule a UDS session for X lockup bug squashing
    • manjo to deep dive on suspend/resume bugs to find patterns
    • ogasawara to schedule community bug days to coincide with kernel-team bug days

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Jaunty
    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Karmic Status
    • Alpha-1 may 14th
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
    • Regressions
    • Bug day
  • Open discussion

Tue, April 21st, 2009

Cancelled due to Release Week commitments.

Tue, April 14th, 2009

Minutes

Agenda

  • Open Action Items
    • last week

      • awe to inform kernel-team when LPIA kernel testing is complete

      • manjo to ping Arjan on kerneloops submission testing

      • apw to talk to pitti about tags in apport

      • pgraner to assign usbserial bug to rtg

    • outstanding

      • ogasawara to issue CFT around ext4 data loss patches

      • sconklin bring up archiving of Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees after the sprint

      • sconklin coordinate testing by the OEM team for Hardy and Jaunty lpia

      • apw, ogasawara and smb discuss regression lists at the sprint (confirm this is on the adjenda)

  • Security & bugfix kernels (We will skip this week due to the RC this week)

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Jaunty Status
    • Jaunty Upcoming RC
    • Suspend/Resume
      • Call for Testing Update
      • Bug Reporting/Tracking
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
    • Regressions
  • Open discussion

Tue, April 7th, 2009

Meeting was cancelled.

Tue, March 31st, 2009

Meeting was cancelled.

Tue, March 24th, 2009

Minutes

Agenda

  • Open Action Items
    • last week

      • awe to report back to kernel-team on LPIA testing status

      • apw to inform ogasawara when revised CFT can go out

      • smb to send manjo bug on Dell server hw issue on Hardy

      • ogasawara to issue CFT around ext4 data loss patches

    • outstanding

      • sconklin bring up archiving of Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees after the sprint

      • sconklin coordinate testing by the OEM team for Hardy and Jaunty lpia

      • apw, ogasawara and smb discuss regression lists at the sprint (confirm this is on the adjenda)

      • sconklin create wiki page showing lpia source structure and repos for various releases

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Jaunty Status
    • Jaunty Alpha 6
    • Suspend/Resume
      • Call for Testing Update
      • Bug Reporting/Tracking
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
    • Regressions
  • Open discussion

Tue, March 17th, 2009

Minutes

Agenda

  • New Starter - Hugh Blemings
  • Open Action Items
    • last week
      • sconklin, bring up archiving of Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees after the sprint
      • sconklin, coordinate testing by the OEM team for Hardy and Jaunty lpia
      • ogasawara, handle another call for testing for A6
      • apw and smb, look through the bugs ogasawara mentioned
      • apw, ogasawara and smb, discuss regression lists at the sprint
      • smb add marker to calendar to show kernel freezes
    • outstanding from previous weeks
      • pgraner, sconklin, awe to discuss OEM testing of lpia trees
      • sconklin, create wiki page showing lpia source structure and repos for various releases
      • apw, confirm the ack requirements for jaunty

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Jaunty Status
    • Jaunty Alpha 6
    • Suspend/Resume
      • Call for Testing Update
      • Bug Reporting/Tracking
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
  • Open discussion

Tue, March 10th, 2009

  • New Starters (Bryan Wu and Brad Figg)

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
    • Archiving the Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees
    • Moving Jaunty LPIA into distro kernel
  • Jaunty Status
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
  • Open Action Items
    • last week
      • smb and apw schdule regression list call for Tues (DONE)
      • smb add item to discuss tracking and reduction of regressions at the sprint (DONE)
      • unknown, add marker to calendar to show end of outside change acceptance
      • pgraner, sconklin, awe to discuss OEM testing of lpia trees
      • sconklin to create wiki page showing lpia source structure and repos for various releases
    • outstanding from previous weeks
  • Open discussion

Tue, March 3rd, 2009

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
    • Archiving the Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees
    • Moving Jaunty LPIA into distro kernel
  • Jaunty Status
    • Jaunty Alpha 6
    • Suspend/Resume
      • Call for Testing Update
      • Bug Reporting/Tracking
    • Vanilla Kernel Builds
      • status
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
  • Open discussion

Tue, February 24, 2009

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
    • Archiving the Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees
    • Moving Jaunty LPIA into distro kernel
  • Jaunty Status
  • ARM Tree
    • status
  • LPIA Tree
    • status
  • Incoming Bugs
  • Open discussion

Tue, February 17, 2009

Tue, February 10, 2009

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
    • Stable update policy change
    • Archiving the Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees
    • Moving Jaunty LPIA into distro kernel
  • Jaunty Status
  • ARM Tree
  • LPIA Tree
  • Open discussion

Tue, January 27, 2009

Tue, January 20, 2009

  • Security & bugfix kernels

    • Intrepid
    • Hardy
    • Others
  • Jaunty Status
    • Alpha 3
    • Suspend/Resume
      • Script
      • Bug Reporting/Tracking
      • Call for Testing
    • Removal of ACPI Suspend Method
    • Vanilla Kernel Builds
  • ARM Tree
  • Open discussion

Tue, November 25, 2008

Tue, November 18, 2008

  • Welcome Andy Whitcroft to the Kernel Team!

  • Status of Intrepid Security & bugfix kernels

  • Jaunty Status
  • ARM Tree
  • Open discussion
  • Roundtable
    • pgraner
    • timg
    • BenC
    • amitk
    • smb_tp
    • cking
    • lieb
    • sconklin
    • apw

Tue, November 11, 2008

  • Canceled Due to U.S. Holiday

Tue, November 4, 2008

  • Post Intrepid Status
    • Increase in Bugs?
    • If so what type? Any trends?
  • Intrepid Update/Security Kernel
    • When?
    • Everything on the lists that needs to be??
  • RFC - RFC: Stable kernel updates and the SRU process (rtg)

  • UDS Status & Prep

  • Open discussion
  • Roundtable
    • pgraner
    • timg
    • BenC
    • amitk
    • smb_tp
    • cking
    • lieb
    • sconklin

Tue, October 28, 2008

Tue, October 21, 2008

Tue, October 14, 2008

  • Welcome Jim to the team
  • Intrepid Status

  • LP #254923 HPA also see comment in http://lwn.net/Articles/301862/ (BenC)

  • https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/261318

    • Are we doing the right thing in shipping tlsup instead of toshiba_acpi? If so, what do we need to do in order to get it working properly?
  • usplash screen corruption LP #282700, 263782, 277795 (couldn't find bug email from Dell)
  • rf_kill switch LP #267875 (timg)
  • iwl4965 firmware LP #220917 (BenC)
  • Status of wireless backport (timg)
  • Wrong Copyright file LP #262564 (BenC)

  • QA Bugs

  • UDS Status & Prep

  • Open discussion
    • Future of the linux-ports kernels (munckfish)
      • Can we keep ports in sync with the official Ubuntu kernel in Jaunty? Like lpia does now?
      • Is there anyone that cares about ia64 (currently FTBFS), sparc, hppa?
  • Roundtable
    • Pete
    • Tim
    • Ben
    • Amit
    • Stefan
    • Colin
    • Jim

Tue, March 18, 2008

  • Team status
    • Tim Gardner (rtg) and Stefan Bader (smb): On holiday
    • Colin King (cking)
      • Investigating hardy kernel bugs for RC
      • Moving on to boot loader issues for intrepid
    • Amit Kucheria (amitk)
      • Mobile hardware testing
      • Preparing intrepid kernel tree
      • Preparing separate intrepid tree for UME/MID
  • Re-iterated the policies for kernel freeze during beta/RC 

The basic points of our current bug policy is that we will mainly focus on bugs that prevent users from booting/installing Ubuntu.

Bugs that fall into this category are mainly graphics and storage related, but generally covers networking as well.

Other bugs will either be deferred to 8.04.1 point release, or for 8.10, depending on the bug.

Exceptions to this can occur, but are not likely...basis for exceptions will be the estimated number of people affected by the bug, and the complexity of the fix (IOW, the trivial fixes with least chances of regression may be considered).

We only have one more _planned_ kernel upload, as per the kernel release schedule (linked to a google cal from KernelTeam wiki).

Tue, March 4, 2008

  • Team status
    • Amit Kucheria
      • Worked with UME team to get a kernel image out to Intel
      • Integration of WLAM and DRM drivers for Intel Atom processors
      • Working to get USB_PERSIST enabled and usable for certain platforms
      • Started MID/UME stock-source+build-system tree
    • Tim Gardner
      • Worked on HeadersABI implementation as discussed at Feb2008 sprint
      • Will be gone March 6-26
    • Colin King
      • General bug work, patching and builds
      • Asked about extra tasks outside of bug list, pointed to blueprints and general LP bugs
    • Stefan Bader
      • i915 drm patches
      • Build script work
  • QA Bug list: Last week was great work for the team. Only one bug carried over.
  • Make sure everyone is aware of Tim being out March 5-26 for his vacation.
  • Pointed out that team needs to make a stronger effort to use public communication for general discussions, where possible.

Tue, February 19, 2008

  • Alpha 5 approaches, but the -9 kernel uploaded for it had a build failure due to junk in control file
    • Upload deferred until after A5 due to freeze
    • Also need to address some ABI issues in linux-ubuntu-modules (at kernel team sprint)
    • Need to fix linux-backports-modules meta packages as well (rtg)
    • dmraid45 needed fixing (noted by smb)
    • Kernel upload missed scheduled window by one day, which didn't allow for fixup before freeze.
  • QA bug list handled very well. Need to get past bugs that are unassigned either closed as wont-fix, or assigned to a team member.

Tue, February 12, 2008

  • Team status

    • AmitKucheria: Mobile updates coming up in the next week, including graphics and dma drivers for hardy lpia kernel.

    • TimGardner: Coordinating with Amit for -8 kernel, targeted for Alpha 5. Expressed concern about an change in IDE drivers (sda->hda). Needs to be addressed ASAP.

    • StefanBader: tp_smapi driver in lum, and lots of bug triaging. Some discussion with Leann on proper bug triaging.

    • ColinKing: Initial commits to main repo, bug trigiaging.

  • Adhoc discussion in re-establishing the double-ack patch submission to kernel-team
  • Discussion on bug list:
    • "Carried Over" section is still growing. Needs priority
    • 189224: Serious issue, needs attention. Stefan to investigate
    • 185303: Also important, bios related, Tim will investigate
  • abogani: Raised desire to include -rt kernel in main for hardy+1

Tue, February 5, 2008

  • Team status
  • Intros's: Colin King and Stefan Bader
  • General discussion
    • Issues raised about NFS bugs
    • Issues with Broadcom 43xx driver conflicts/overlap raised

Minutes and Logs

Past logs and minutes are now at MeetingLogs/Kernel

Tue, July 10 (canceled)

  • Meeting canceled (London Distro Sprint)

Tue, Jun 12

  • Team Status
    • Absent: Tim (vac) and Kyle (UME sprint)
    • New start: Amit
  • Discuss hand-off of gutsy maintenance to rest of team

    • ACTION: Ben to provide schedule of major devel cycle events, including uploads and rebase days, to be matched against milestones.

    • ACTION: Ben to provide process document for maintaining tree

  • KVM status (cr3)
    • Ben ran test of KVM just before meeting, all seemed working
    • Issues noted:
      • vpn requirement
      • reference of machines names to id requires cross checking a file on the cert system

    • ACTION: Marc will work on getting ssh or stunnel to replace vpn

  • An intro to bugs from distro-qa:
    • heno instroduced distro-qa team and discussed some processes they will be using for high priority bugs.

    • ACTION: Ben will add a rolling agenda item to kernel team meetings to discuss hi prio distro-qa bugs.

    • ACTION: Ben will schedule time at Distro Sprint in London for distro-qa and kernel team: Topics to include bug workflow and handling of distro-qa bugs.

  • Open discussion

Tue, May 29

  • Team Status
    • Ben (BenC)
      • Working on gutsy kernel, patch merges
    • Kyle (kylem)
      • Non-kernel related work
    • Phillip (pkl)
      • Sifting through feisty security upload bugs, no major regressions
      • Still working on VIA ps2 mouse problem
      • Needs to contact Rob Rhoads directly about mobile kernel config. Email ubuntu-module when there's progress.
    • Tim (rtg)
      • Absent, vacation
  • Issues before Tribe 1 (BenC)
    • None to speak of. The 2.6.22-6.11 (-rc3) kernel will likely be Tribe 1.
  • Discuss KVM setup at Montreal Office (cr3)
    • KVM accessed over VPN
    • Client is java based
    • Machines are powered off at this time, connected to PDU. Powered on by request
    • Plans to move to colocation center so machines can remain on 24/7
    • Will provide VPN/client howto in coming days
    • Will provide info on cert appliance and colocation at next kernel meeting.
  • Open discussion

Tue, May 15

  • Reviewed topics from UDS
  • Virtualization
    • Continued vmware support looks good
    • Xen support needs community behind it
    • OpenVZ will need support to forward port things to 2.6.22
  • Wireless discussions from UDS
    • Regulatory restrictions
    • mac80211
  • Open discussion

Tue, April 17

  • Review kernel release schedule

    • Status, released Smile :)

  • Review bug status for feisty
    • No release critical bugs known
    • A few bugs pointed out for SRU
  • Discuss initial proposed specs for UDS
  • Syncing local Ubuntu kernel changes to upstream when 2.6.22 opens in git. Need someone to take on this process to reduce our delta for feisty+1.
    • Tim to handle syncing these changes for merging upstream.
  • Review for feisty-security post-release.
    • Phillip to handle feisty tree post-release
  • Open discussion

Tue, Apr 3 (canceled)

  • Meeting canceled

Mon, Mar 19

  • Confirm kernel freeze

    • Discussed kernel release times for feisty in conjunction with release schedule. Will add notes to KernelTeam/Roadmap.

  • Review new kernel bug policies
  • Review any show stopper bugs

  • Discuss upcoming UDS and Request-For-Specs: KernelTeam/Roadmap

  • Discuss new day/time for the meetings.
    • Decided on Tue's at 15:00 UTC
  • Open discussion
    • Kyle brought up how to handle late drivers for feisty. Need to discuss where the updates will go (-proposed, -backports, -updates, main?).

Mon, Mar 5

  • Updates on bug list
  • Open discussion

Wed, Feb 21

  • Status of d80211 inclusion (in addition to bcm43xx status).
    • Kyle will work on syncing newer d80211 stack and testing.
  • Status of Unionfs. Discuss whether to include Unionfs 2.0 in Feisty kernel.

    • Bug in question is: https://launchpad.net/bugs/85145

    • Unionfs 2.0 is too big of a change this close to release.
    • Phillip to work on isolating fix to backport to our current code.
  • Discussion of bug triaging methods and policy.
    • Ben will work on wiki howto to detail our current policy.
  • Assessment of current bug list.
    • It's huge. Work will begin to lower the unconfirmed and unassigned list.
  • Open Discussion.